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Pat Mills's avatar

It's a fascinating subject, ignored by science, and yet having some level of psychic reality at least. A football crowd has a collective energy similar to an Egregore, Then there's the idea of a Tulpa - a materialised thought form that may be created by a magician and perhaps 'escapes' and has an autonomous existence. How far a Muse fits these criteria I don't know. Nine Muses are listed by the Greeks. It's a complex, interactive world, equivalent to the botanical kingdom or the animal kingdom, yet barely charted or given a vocabulary, because science says it doesn't exist and it's all a delusion. I must take a closer look at the Nine Muses and see if there any clues. They're roughly similar to the Nine Arts. The latter should start with oral storytelling and ends with Comics, the ninth art.

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David Talbot Glendon's avatar

The repression of the old ways, the same as Scottish pre-history. There must be something very powerful there for it to be dismissed by several different establishments, the scientific, the religious.

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Yes, It always struck me as odd that the legend of Scota - after whom Scotland is named - is barely known. It's an incredible story beginning in Ancient Egypt, going through Ireland to Scotland. Just as myth, it's perfect for storytelling. Instead, academia promotes Greek and Roman legends. Odyssey, Jason and the Argonauts etc.That suggests behind the scenes decisions were made which - of course - the establishment, as always, would deny. But look at the Scottish reaction to the film Braveheart. Establishment doesn't want anymore Celtic heroes. They might give the Scottish ideas and inspire them.It's why I covered Scota in Slaine, but she really deserved her own story.

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David Talbot Glendon's avatar

So her story could continue on beyond Scotland, to Ireland & beyond that too. It seems like there is so much to learn, so much that could go into a story! Truly fascinating.

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David Talbot Glendon's avatar

“The Scotichronicon” oh my god! Ha!

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David Talbot Glendon's avatar

I see that that there’s a chance that Scota was black, that really would ruffle some feathers! A strong female character done right for a change would be amazing! None of this Wonder Woman crap! I have strong thoughts about Braveheart, Robert McKay’s book on Wallace convinced me it was too Americanised, the story the book told was far more interesting to me. I think it says something that the statue of Mel Gibson they put up at the Wallace Monument in Stirling kept being vandalised until they had to take it away. Slaine is more relatable to a Scot, the dialogue & humour seem to me broadly Celtic, representative of something the Irish & the Scots share. I know from Kiss My Axe that you worked hard on that element, & for me you more than got near! You transcended it having an Irish flavour.

I should point out after all that, that I consider myself a Scotsman. I was born in Irvine & lived my first few years in Saltcoats in Ayrshire.

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Pat Mills's avatar

Thanks! Scota (Meritaten) could well be black as she came from Egypt. Her Mother Nefertiti's skin colour is certainly brown. Father Akhenaten has possibly African features. Altho he's almost alien in some images. But many Egyptian pyramid builders were definitely black Africans. https://artisticlicenseorwhyitrustnoone.blogspot.com/2019/09/scota-egyptian-princess-who-wasnt_24.html. I remember reading the same academic's book on the subject. Her blog shows how widespread the legend was in British tradition. So that bears out our earlier concern that establishment academia consciously and deliberately blanked it.Because of the implications for Scottish nationalism. I doubt that many Scots know of her today. And it's an amazing story that deserves its own book. I tried with a series for France but various things went wrong. One fascinating element is she may have reached Ireland via the navigable waterways at that time of Eastern Europe and then onto Denmark etc

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Hear, hear. Psychology rarely looks at things like egregores and similar psychic phenomena. It's good that the term 'egregore' is being popularised. There's a surprising number of articles about them on line

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Neil Shenton's avatar

The concept of egregores and the like is fascinating. I've been thinking that all of the hate being purposefully stirred up by social and traditional media surely must be being harvested and utilised in some 'magical' way. Like John Lydon once sung 'Anger is an energy'.

As for The Daily Heil? Well, every time the Euromillions reaches an obscene jackpot i buy a ticket knowing that the first thing on my to-do list would be to buy out that hateful rag, burn it the ground and piss on its ashes.

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Gwyn ap Harri's avatar

I love this idea of physically manifesting ideas so we can see what the true nature of those ideas are. I can't seem to shake the image of some spectral power coming down through our phones to control our physical bodies... for some reason, I seem to experience this image whenever I find myself on the (terror)tube in London. And that, ironically, all these shit and good ideas are all made up by us. Or are they...? At work, I see smaller versions come and go - I just call them memes as they're not like anti-semitism, just like anti-deadline...! I have often created my own to counter the negative ones. But if egregores are the bad ones, what are the good ones called, or are there any real good ones? Like angels are so shitty... Thanks Pat!!!

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