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Pat Mills's avatar

Thanks, Darrell. I feel the same way - it's truly terrifying. Ammon's work is likely to only attract a cult following because he will be seen as eccentric, even crazy. If it had wider appeal I fear the Church and the establishment would deal with him. However, with my later post, in two week's time entitled 'This is Church business' Ammon makes a calmer and more accessible case which may get wider traction. I hope so. I've successfully survived the Catholic Church, and so have many others, but there are so many more whose lives have been ruined by the Church. Thanks again!

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Darrell Thorpe's avatar

Brilliant article Pat, I really appreciate the time and care taken. It's such a twist cult that seems to poison every crevice of this world. I am very green to the knowledge you put forward (apart from obvious Preist pedophila) but the way you have laid the evidence out and references, made it a terrifying and fascinating read.

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Pat Mills's avatar

Excellent summary, thanks! It leaves many of us with a sense of impotence which I think is the system's intention. I see it as a hydra headed beast. I focus on just two of the heads - World War One and its relevance to today and the Catholic Church. I used to cover Gaza but got targeted by Zionists and it became almost a full time occupation to deal with them which is how shills work. But I'm encouraged by a neighbour who regularly writes on Facebook that Bibi should hang for his crimes. They've endlessly made their crimes in Gaza seem 'normal' and 'acceptable'. They have excellent propagandists but Lowkey is more than a match for them because Truth is on his side. I wish there were more

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Pat Mills's avatar

You're right. There's endless versions. But the one Ammon has translated is the official version which somehow left the original questionable Greek in it. Ammon says this was through clumsy translation. Although censoring must have come into it, too. A friend of ours has an Oxford scholar son who is proficient in Ancient Greek so I'm hoping to ask him about Ammon's conclusions. One thing's for sure - all the early Christians were dubious Gnostics - anti-life - and it's most unlikely that the authorised early Christianity was any different and had similar questionable, perverted practises. AFAIK, no one explores this, apart from Ammon, which is curious. Or maybe it's just the Orwellian world we live in where no one asks questions about such crucial matters. Because all belief systems evolve and change over time and there's no reason to think Christianity would be any different when it presented its 'safe', cleaned-up version in the fourth century with the Nicene Creed. AFAIK there's no account of those first 400 years that isn't either boringly or obscurely academic, with no questions asked, or strongly partisan towards Christianity. And so the Christian lies continue to harm new generations.

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Austin Watts's avatar

What terrifies me about all of this is that this ignorance is increasingly being weaponized today. The dispensationalist millennialists are increasingly enveloping the mainstream Christians’ theology as their real political influence grows. At the same time, figures like Kanye West, Candace Owens, and many other right leaning pundits are playing up the antisemitic rhetoric to absolve America and the West’s unholy alliance with Israel. This allows Trump to put it all on Bibi when convenient. It also sets the stage for more genocide of the Palestinians “on America’s terms” and the eventual genocide of 2/3 of the Jews. Israel would not exist w/o Christians and the majority of Jews at the start of the project rejected it (see Einstein who was even offered presidency). We know many of the founders of America were critical of the Christian’s, but at the same time they were telling the public that all men were created equal, sought to suppress the demos, and hid their own hypocrisy behind their lofty moral rhetoric. They built their empire from the blueprints of Rome where the Nobel lie of Plato was weaponized to ensure the elites privileged status at the expense of the common man. Not to mention the church’s rhetoric shields climate justice while the planet cooks, flat earth theories on the rise, and Musk wants people to be more religious and less educated. To quote George Carlin “they want obedient workers just smart enough to operate the machines but not smart enough to see they are being f’d by a system that through them overboard some years ago”. Truth is this country has been driven by lies and myths since its founding to divide and conquer the populace and eventually the world for a small group of capitalists.

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Courage Is The Cure's avatar

Great article. 🖤

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Subo2's avatar

Deciphering and rewriting the Bible - Cool. The rabbit hole is never too deep. Which version are we currently on anyway...?

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Nick Xylas's avatar

I see what you mean about accessibility. It's important to keep an open mind, and I'd be interested to hear what Ammon has to say, but there's no way I'm sitting through a two-hour talking heads video on YouTube (in general, I mean, not just in this case).

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